Q. As Salaam Wa Alaikum – I am Saba Baqai from Delhi, and my question to Zakir uncle is – the Christian concept of the God is the ‘trinity’… the father, the son and the holy ghost. But these are one – does this mean that they believe in only one God?

A. (Dr. Zakir): The sister has asked the question, that the Christians believe in ‘trinity’ – the father the son and the holy ghost, and that they are one. Does it mean that they also believe in one God? Sister, if you analyze, the word ‘trinity’ – it occurs, no where in the Bible. If you search the full Bible, the word ‘trinity’ doesn’t exist anywhere in the Bible – Its not there in the Bible. But the word ‘trinity’ is there in the Holy Qu’ran – But the word ‘trinity’ in there in the Holy Qu’ran. The Holy Qu’ran says in Surah Nisa, Ch. 4, V. No. 171,  it says…(Arabic)… ‘Don’t say trinity’. (Arabic)… ‘Desist, stop it, its better for you – For God in one God’. It is again repeated in Surah Maidah, Chapter No. 5, Verse No. 73, it says…(Arabic)… ‘They blaspheme, those who say that Allah is one of three, in a ‘trinity’- For there is no God, but Allah’. The word ‘trinity’ is not mentioned in the Bible but it is there in the Qu’ran – and Qu’ran says…(Arabic)…‘Don’t say trinity’. The closest verse that you can find in the Bible, which can be taken for ‘trinity’ is the first Epistle of John, Chapter, No. 5, Verse No. 7 which says…‘For there are three which bears record in heaven – the father, the word, and the holy Ghost – and these three are one’. This verse of the Bible, 1st Epistle of John, Chapter 5, Verse No. 7, is the closest resemblance to ‘trinity’ in the full Bible. But if you read the ‘Revised Standard Version’, which has been revised by 32 scholars of the highest eminence, backed by 50 different Christian co-operating denominations – they have removed this verse from the Bible as an interpolation, as a concoction, as a fabrication. It was not removed by Muslims or non-Christian scholars – but it was removed by 32  Christian scholars of the highest eminence backed by 50 different co-operative denominations as an interpolation, as a concoction, as a fabrication, because it was not there in the original manuscript. We Muslims  – we should thank the galaxies of DDs, ‘the doctors of Divinity’, for getting the Bible one step closer to the Qu’ran – Closer to Islam. As the Qu’ran says…(Arabic)…‘Don’t say trinity’. In fact if you analyze, as I said in my talk, Jesus Christ, (peace be upon him), never spoke about ‘trinity’- that father, son and Holy Ghost – they were one. In fact he said in the Gospel of John, Chapter 14, Verse No. 28, ‘My father is greater than I’, Gospel of John, Chapter No. 10, Verse No. 29, ‘My father is greater than I’, Gospel of Mathew, Chapter No. 12, Verse No. 28, ‘I cast out devils with the spirit of God’. Gospel of Luke, Chapter No. 11, Verse No. 20 ‘With the finger of God, I cast out devil’, Gospel of John Chapter No. 5, Verse No. 30, ‘I can of my own self do nothing – As I hear I judge and my judgement is just – Because I seek not my will but the will of the Father who has sent me’- He never spoke about ‘trinity’. In fact when he was asked that, ‘which is the first of the commandments’ – he said – its mentioned in the Gospel of Mark, Chapter No. 12, Verse. No. 29…(Hebrew)… Which means, ‘Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord’. But if you ask the Christian Church – in the Catechism, they tell you that the Father is a person, the Son is a person, and the Holy Ghost is a person – but they aren’t three persons, – they are one person’. Person, person, person, but not three persons – one person – What language is this? 1+1+1 is equal to 3, Its not equal to 1. 1 into 3 is 3…Not 1.  So when we ask them that suppose, there are three triplets, identical triplets – If one of them commits murder, can you hang the other – they say… ‘No’. Then you ask them why? – Because each one has a different personality – If one of the triplets commit murder you cannot hang the other, because each one has a different personality. And when the Christian, when they think of the Father in heaven, they think like an old man like ‘Santa Clause’, sitting in the Heaven on one of the Planet with the earth as His foot stool. When they think about the son, that Jesus Christ, (peace be upon him), they think if a tall man who is fair, who has got blonde eyes like Jeffrey Hunter. You see in the movie ‘King of Kings’. He did the acting of Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) – Jeffery Hunter – they have a certain mental picture. When they talk about Holy Ghost, they think of a ‘dove’ as the Bible says… ‘which came upon Jesus Christ, peace be upon him when he was baptized’ – Or they think it like a ‘spirit’ that came at the feast of Pentecost which is mentioned in the Bible. But when you ask the Christian that when you speak about trinity, how many pictures do you have in your mind – the Christian will tell you… ‘One’. Believe me he is lying to you, because 1+1+1 is three, it is not one. Hope that answer the question.

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  1. While it is true that “trinity” is not found in the bible, the concept of the trinity in terms of the plurality in the Godhead is found in the Bible. It is clear from scripture that the relationship of the Father to the Son is two persons within the Godhead. Persons do not have to be physical, but may be non-physical. For example, angels are persons, Satan is considered a person, and the Holy Spirit is a person. A person is one who has a will. A person is able to identify other persons. A person is one who has the ability to choose, decide, judge, and have purpose.

    There are many words in the bible that are not found but that does not mean they are true.

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