Q. Assalaamu Alaikum brother. I am Dr. Qamar Aara and my question is – Christians explain the concept of ‘trinity’ as well as, ‘that God can take human form’ – by giving the example that water can be present in 3 states – as ‘solid’ like ice, ‘liquid’ as water, and ‘gas’ as vapour – Yet it is one and the same water. Similarly a person can also be a father, a brother, a business man at the same time – But yet he is one and the same person – So why not the father, the son and the holy sprit?

(Dr. Zakir): The sister has asked the question regarding ‘trinity’. The Christians have the concept of ‘trinity’, – father, son, holy ghost. Her previous question was – I had proved it from the Bible, that Jesus (peace be upon him) never believed in ‘trinity’. Now she gave an example – She has given a human logic, asking a question, that if water can be present in three states – as Solid, Liquid and Gas – as Ice, Water and Vapour – When water can be in 3 states, why can’t God be? Similarly, the Christian missionaries – they pose the question… ‘Even God Almighty can be present in three forms – the father,  son, and holy ghost. But if you analyze, I do agree matter can be in three states – Solid, Liquid and Gas. But you should realize that if water is present in 3 states… solid, liquid, gas – as ice, water, and vapour, in all the three states – the constituents, the component of water is the same… H2O.  Even if its ice,  the constituent and component is H2O –  Even when it is water it is H2O – Even when it is vapour it is H2O – Even when it is ice… even when it is gas or liquid, it is H2O – That’s very important.  Now lets analyze the example they gave of ‘trinity’ – Father, son and holy ghost. In 3 forms if you say… for the sake of argument, I agree – but are the constituents of all these three things, – father, son, that is Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) and holy ghost, the same? We know very well that human beings have got flesh and bones – A spirit and God Almighty have got no flesh and bones. Human beings require to eat -God Almighty does not require to eat. And the same message Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) gave – Its mentioned in the Gospel of Luke Ch. No.24, V.No.39 to 43. That, ‘Behold my hands and feet – Its I myself. Handle me and see – that a spirit has got  no flesh and bones as you see me have. And he gave his hands and feet – And they were overjoyed. To prove what? that he was not a spirit – he was not God Almighty. And the verse continues ‘Do you have meat to eat’ and the next verse says that he ate broiled fish and honey comb.  To prove what? – that he was God? To prove that he was not God! Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) said, ‘A spirit has no flesh and bones, as I have proving that he was not a spirit – he was not Almighty God. Regarding the second example – sister gave the example, that a person can be a father, a brother and a businessman at the same time, – So why can’t God be father, son and holy ghost. It’s a very good example, and I do agree that one person can be a father, can be a brother, and can be a businessman at the same time. Many people out here also may be father, brother and businessman at the same time. But if suppose, the sister of that man tells a secret to the brother, but natural even the father and businessman will know that secret, because he is one and the same person. If a sister tells a secret to the brother, who is a father and a businessman at the same time – when the secret is told to the brother, even the ‘father’ part of that man, and ‘businessman’ part of the man will know the secret. But when you read in the Bible, in the  Gospel of  Mark, Ch. No. 13,  Verse No. 32, it says ‘Of that day, of that hour, knoweth no man, – no, not even the angels in the heaven, nor the son of man, but the father’. ‘The knowledge of the hour of  that day – no one knows. Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) said ‘Except the Father’ – not even the angels, not even himself. If Father -, the God Almighty, and Jesus Christ (peace be upon him), were one and the same – then if knowledge of hour is known to God Almighty, even Jesus should know about it (peace be upon him). So this proves that they were not one. Further… further, if the brother dies, even the man and the businessman will die… If the brother dies, even man and businessman will die. So when Jesus Christ (peace be upon him), according to the Bible… according to the Christians, he died on the Cross – do you mean to say even God Almighty and the Holy ghost died?

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