Q. You have differentiated Hinduism, Islam and Christianity. In all three Religions, there is good things for brotherhood – You have not explained brotherhood in Hinduism, brotherhood in Christianity?

A(Dr. Zakir): The brother said that I have spoken good things about Islam… Universal Brotherhood  – I have not spoken good things about Hinduism and Christianity. I did speak certain good things  – I did not speak everything about brotherhood in Hinduism and Christianity, because people may not be able to digest it here. These things what I am saying, people cannot digest –  I have to be patient. I know Christianity, I have studied the Bible; I have studied the Hindu  Scripture ; if I speak on that  – I am not here to create a rift. What I am here, to talk about the communalities  – so what is common I spoke. Hinduism says…‘Do not rob’ – Christianity says…‘Do not rob’  – do not molest… do not rape’ –  fine. Other things on Brotherhood  – do you know, just a sample I am giving you –  Jesus Christ (pbuh) said  – it is mentioned in the Gospel of Matthew, Ch. No. 10, V. No. 5 to 6  – It says…I am quoting Chapter No., Verse No., quoting  – there is no two doubts about it. He told the Apostles that…‘Go ye not in the way of the Gentiles –  But     rather go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel’. Who are the Gentiles? The Non Jews, the Hindus, the Christians… they are the Gentiles. ‘Do not throw pearls before pigs’… he calls us a pig  – And you want me to speak about that? Jesus Christ (pbuh) says in the Gospel of Matthew, Ch. No. 15, V. No. 24 –  he says that...‘I have not been sent but, to the lost sheep of the house of Israel’.  I am quoting –  Chapter No., Verse Number. So this means that, Religion is meant for the Jews – not for the whole Universe. In other Religions, the believe in monasticism… in monasticism. If you have to come closer to God, you have to renounce the world… you have to renounce the world  – Most of the Major Religions… Hinduism says that…Christianity says that…‘To come closer to God, you have to renounce the world’. Qur’an says in Surah Hadith, Ch. 57, V. No. 27, that…‘It is against Monasticism’. Monasticism is not allowed in Islam  – Our beloved Prophet said…‘There is no Monasticism’. It is mentioned in Sahih Bukhari, Vol. No. 7, in the Book of Nikah, Ch. No. 3, H. No. 4…‘O young people, whoever has the means to get married, should get married’ –  Hadith says that. If I agree, that if you renounce the world, you came closer to Almighty God –  and if every human being renounces the world today, then  within a span of 100 to 150 years, there will not be a single human being alive in this world. If every one practices this law throughout the world, where is the Universal Brotherhood? Therefore brother, I am only come to talk about the good points  – Unless you want to have knowledge about other Religions  – it is my job  – I have to speak the truth. Qur’an says in Surah Isra, Ch. No. 17, V. No. 81 …(Arabic)… ‘When truth is hurled against falsehood, falsehood perishes, for falsehood is by its nature, bound to perish’. Hope that answers the question.

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Q. Dr. Naik, I am Advocate Madhav Phadhke – you said in your speech that God is alive, imageless and formless, as stated in Hinduism. Then why you Muslims doing Haj Pilgrim – they worship Holy shrine, as the Hindus they worship?

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A. (Dr. Zakir): That is a very good question the brother has posed  – that if Almighty God has got no image in Islam    – Allah (swt) no form…then why do the Muslims   – they worship the Holy Shrine…referring to the Kabah  – in Haj Pilgrimage ? Brother, it is a misconception  – No Muslim ever worships the Kaba   – It is a misconception among the Non-Muslims, that we Muslims, we worship the Kabah. No Muslim worships the Kabah   – we only worship Allah (swt), Who we cannot see in this world. What we do is, the Kabah is the Qibla  – Qibla in Arabic means ‘The direction.’ Kabah is the Qibla, because we Muslims  – We  believe in unity, always unity. For example, if we want to pray to Almighty God… Allah (swt)   – If we have to offer Salaah, some may say… ‘Let us face the North ; some may say…‘Let us face South’ ; some may say…‘East’ ; some say…‘West’. Where do we face? We believe in unity  – So for unity, all the Muslims throughout the world, they are asked to face in the direction of the Qibla,  that…is the Kabah  – it is our direction   – We do not worship it. And the first people who drew the world map, were the Muslims  – and when the Muslims drew the world map, they drew with the South pole on top, and North pole down   – and Kabah was in the center. The Westerners came and they turned the map upside down –  North pole on top, South pole down. Alhamdulillah, yet the Kabah is in the  center   – Mecca is in the center. And since Mecca is in the center, any Muslim in any part of the world  – if he is staying in North of Kabah, he faces towards the South; If he is staying in the South of Kabah, he faces towards the North. All the Muslims throughout the world, they face in one direction. Kabah is the Qibla… it is the direction  – No Muslim ever worships it  – No Muslim ever worships it. And when we go for Haj… to the pilgrimage, we circumambulate round the Kabah. We circumambulate around the Kabah, because everyone knows, that all circles have only one center  – So we circumambulate round the Kabah, to testify that there is only one God  – not because we worship it. And the statement of the second Khalifa of Islam, Hazrat Umar, may Allah be pleased with him, he said  – it is mentioned in Sahih Muslim, in the book of Haj, Volume No. 2  –  he said, Hazrat Umar may Allah be pleased with him, that… ‘I am kissing the black stone, that is the Kabah… Sange Aswad, only because my Prophet kissed it  – otherwise this black stone can neither harm me, neither can it benefit me’. The second Khalifa of Islam… Caliph of Islam, Hazrat Umar, may Allah be pleased with him  – he made it clear for eternity, that no Muslim ever worships the black stone  – it can neither benefits us, neither can it harm us. And the best example is that, during the time of the Prophet   – the Sahabas… the companions of the Prophet, they even stood on the Kabah, and gave the Adhan   –  Adhan is the call for prayers. People stood on the Kabah, and gave the Adhan. I am asking you…‘Which idol worshipper, will ever stand on the idol he worships.’So these are sufficient proofs, that no Muslim ever worships the Kabah. Kabah is the Qibla   –  and we worship only Allah (swt), Who we cannot see with the eyes. Hope that answers the question.

 

Q. You have talked about racial brotherhood, linguistic brotherhood, blood brotherhood, and so on – and they are the disturbance of the concept of the Universal Brotherhood. But you have not talked on the concept of Kafir – I think which is one of most important disturbance of Universal Brotherhood in the world.

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A. (Dr. Zakir): The professor has asked a question, that I have spoken about various concept   – I have explained the concept of Universal Brotherhood, and spoken that the concept of brotherhood based on blood relationship, on race, on caste, and creed, etc… they cause disturbance   – I have not spoken on the concept of Kafir. Brother, Kafir is an Arabic word, which comes from the root word Kufr –  which means ‘to conceal’… ‘to  conceal’, ‘to hide’. It also means ‘to reject’, ‘to conceal’, and in context… in Islamic context, it means that… ‘Any person who conceals or rejects the truth of Islam’ –  anyone who rejects the truth of Islam is called as a Kafir. Means  anyone who rejects the truth of Islam   – that there is one God, and Allah (swt), all that I spoke  – he is a Kafir. Any Brotherhood besides the brotherhood of Universal Brotherhood of faith, and the Islamic Brotherhood   – if it falls in other brotherhood, based on anything   – there can be a hundred types of Brotherhood. Brotherhood based on particular region  – whether it be India, whether it be Pakistan, whether it be America   – all these other brotherhoods, that is not in the per view of the brotherhood of faith… believing in the concept of one God   – disturbs the Universal Brotherhood, including if you say that the Kafirs… the Brotherhood of Kafirs. Do they disturb?… Yes  they disturb. What is the meaning of Kafir ?   – Anyone who rejects the truth of Islam. There are some Non-Muslims who ask me questions  – and during Question-Answer, in one of the cassette, he said that…‘Why do the Muslims abuse us by calling… Kafir –  and people say that their ego is hurt’. I said… ‘See Kafir is a Arabic word which means…‘A person who rejects the truth of Islam’   – It is a Arabic word. For a person who rejects the truth of Islam  – in English, if I have to translate –  He becomes a ‘Non-Muslim.’ So a person is a ‘Non-Muslim’, who rejects the truth of Islam   – he is called as a Kafir. It is just a translation of the English word ‘Non Muslim.’ So if you say that…‘Do not call a Non-Muslim a Kafir’  –  how can I do that? So if a person says…‘Why do you call me a Kafir ? Do not call me a Kafir’. So I can say that…‘You accept Islam – I will stop calling you a Kafir’. It is only a Arabic word for a Non-Muslim  – Hope  that answers the question.